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Unspray ban request

Discussion in 'Unban & Unmute Requests' started by Lino, Jul 19, 2020.

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  1. Lino
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    Name:         Lino

    Server:     All

    Admin:      Ollie

    SteamID:   STEAM_0:1:26532381

    Reason:      I got spraybanned for screenshotting chat and making a spray out of it...

    If I'm not allowed this as my spray then why is he typing it, apparently... Linas response is what really made it though, couldn't have planned that better myself

    really though, this is typed in chat by an admin, why can't I have it as my spray?

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    The bottom corner is just a joke between me and look at his dude, he has the same



    To me, this spray represents the toxicity of why very few females play games, and it was glorious to see an incel be shut down.
     
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    After everything that has happened today, you think this is the time to provoke me by trolling with a spray? As you said in your words you don't like me, so why do you think a spray like this is acceptable when it's clearly to troll me. You ruined an event today for trolling, now you are trolling and provoking me? I asked you to change the spray 4 times, even including kicking, yet you declined, so I spray banned you.

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    I have taken it to myself to ignore you at all costs, because i'm not a childish as you to comment on every thing you say or do but I can't simply ignore when you are making sprays about me.

    I am not going to sit here and argue with you because I know you live for an argument, so I am letting a clan member handle the rest of this unsprayban request.
     
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    Ollie were you embarassed by my spray?
    What exactly embarassed you?
    Was it the sexism, or was it the way you got shut down for your sexism?

    Some asked me why this is sexism, ollie said smd, that's a usual gaming slang term, what isn't common gaming slang is saying "you know you want to".

    Firstly, when I asked my girlfriend (my mail order bride as someone said) does she think this is sexist, she said "that guys a creep", she then went on to help me by explaining when people use provocative language like this, it's because you are seeing the female as an object.

    the part where he said smd isn't the problem, it's the part where he broke out of gamer slang specifically.
     
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    Apart from what your spray contains, Ollie has asked you to change it several times... at least after you got kicked you should have understood...
    Besides, it looks like you're doing it on purpose.. you should really stop trolling

    As I can see on Discord, you really dislike him.. so why would you even use a spray of him?
     
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    "Apart from what your spray contains" - Are you kidding? The whole point is the contents of the spray.

    He asked me to change it because he was embarassed by it... As I understand you're a female (from how other admins adress you). I assumed you out of all people would show some sort of empathy towards the reader of his words. I mean, does it not make you feel creeped out a little?

    He wrote the text, why can I not have it as my spray? You've literally adressed this as a PR officer. Maybe give your actual opinion on your admins behaviour, and your opinion on why he doesn't want me to have the spray anymore, otherwise you are setting a really bad precident.

    I'm going to copy and past this again:

    He wrote the text on the spray. Today. I simply copied and pasted it, just like a bind, so that others could see it.
    You see it as a troll, I see it as being fed up of hearing this dick say derogatory shit to people of different sexes, sexualities and races through the time I've known him. Hence why I refused to play the game with him earlier today.

    This is the lad culture that's being encouraged on here:
    https://hellclan.co.uk/threads/42359/#post-394137

    His friends showing him some support!

    Honestly the only admin I really trust who has shown to have an awareness about this type of issue and has taught me where I've been wrong in the past would be @WildFire

    --- Double Post Merged, Jul 20, 2020, Original Post Date: Jul 19, 2020 ---
    Just saw this update question:

    Pretend I just reported it, the response would be the normal "not going to punish over one instance", or "it's just player banter".. depending on who replies.

    However: Putting it as my spray, imagine spray banning someone for just posting what you typed. Having an issue with your own words to the point you ban someone from being able to display it.This shows and represents so much more.

    Neither you, or @Ollie Explained the reason for the spray ban. Why is this spray a troll. Simply saying "you can't have it because you don't like the player" well that's not very good is it..
     
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    Reviewed the unban request as per @Tag. Spoken with Lina since this is essentially asking the question of is Ollie being misogynistic and caused offense to Lina. In abstract it clearly looks like a degree of being sexist I would agree, however speaking to both Lina and Ollie and having context; both said this is 'consensual banter' and neither are offended by what each other has said. If Lina was offended, she would of reported on forums or to a clan member as usual. Since offense was not caused we don't need to look further into that aspect. SMD is also a common 'gamer response' and not many people seem to be offended by this.

    In terms of the spray and the spray ban, I can imagine that having a spray of this exchange would obviously been taken 'out of context' e.g. New players or uninformed players thinking Ollie is being a creep or disrespectful to Lina, leading to some degree of a backlash, when in fact they have a friendship where they can act this way to each other. So Ollie did have the right to ask you to change as this can lead to a poor perception of a pay admin. Ollie hasn't displayed this type of behaviour on any other occasions to any other females in the community to my knowledge, therefore I have no concerns regarding this type of attitude towards female community players.

    I agree, misogyny and sexism shouldn't exist and gaming communities are rife with it but on this occasion it does not seem as malicious as it sounds. So due to the valid reason to ask you to change spray. Your spray ban will stay for a minimum of 1 week, where you can ask for an unban and we can review then.

    Review date 27/7/2020.
     
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