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JB Rules have been updated. PLEASE READ!

Discussion in 'Updates & Announcements' started by Nomy, Aug 10, 2018.

  1. Hans Entertainment
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    What if its a WD and two Ts are alive...is it allowed to kill them? IMO if they dont do LR its allowed, when they do, CTs should allow them to have fair LRs...
     
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    Precisely.
     
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    Thanks. Then my suggestion is as follows:

    The last remaining two Ts get Last Request (LR) regardless of whether they completed warden games or hid. Rebels can be killed, but Ts cannot be killed after LR for rebelling beforehand.

    “Fair” is already stated in the other rules and just confuses things.

    @Nomy
     
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    Imo thats too long, quite happy with the rule as it is now or just add the word "previous" into it. Its pretty much make sense unless you try to make sense out of it.
     
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    As I've typed before, not everyone go on forums and know that the rules have been changed - and there are many of them.
    It would be best to display the rules/ a link to the rules, so that people won't break them (we can't punish the whole server, and there's no purpose in it since they don't know that the rules have been changed/updated).
     
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    The problem is "regardless of following commands, rebelling" can easily have interpretations that would cause problems in-game.

    I have shortened it further considering more our conversation:

    The last two Ts get Last Request (LR) regardless if they completed games or hid and can't be killed after LR for rebelling beforehand.

    This reflects the change more accurately and is unambiguous. It's also a similar length.
     
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    I've changed to that. Thanks.
     
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    So "kill him after he finishes his lr" is no longer to be a thing, finally.
     
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    another question: well 2 Ts left, won the game, one of them killed the warden and then did LR-IMO CTs are allowed to kill him because hes a rebeler right?
     
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    It's tricky, since the rule says: "You can't kill a T who rebelled, if they activate LR and not continuing on rebelling".
    But in my opinion, you're right - if he chose to kill a CT (doesn't matter if he was the warden) right before doing the LR - then he can be killed after the LR.
     
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    After the 1st LR, CT should take control of the T. Normally freeze unless in active LR. If they rebel, you can kill. If they killed and quickly LR and come out of LR winning it, you cant kill him for what he did before LR. I think the rule only makes sense this way.
     
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    @Hans Entertainment Here's the answer, we were both wrong :)
    Many people don't know this and don't go to forums, you should advertise the updated rules when you log-in into the server @Boy
     
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    I see and yes, many people were quite confused but IMO if it happens to a player who didnt know about the change, the PA only gave him/her a warning....I think it just need a few days to dig in
     
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    Or the rule needs a revision on how its worded because im not sure if the intention is for every LR they do their slate should be cleared. Its meant to be until the moment they reached 2 Ts who can LR.
     
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    If so, I think that if he hide the whole round for example, he should get LR (as it is already stated in the rules).
    But, on the other hand, if a T got to LR, and right before doing the LR he killed a CT then he should be killed since he is rebelling during the LR time (same as picking the rebel option from the LR menu if you ask me).
    But that's just my personal opinion; anyway a clarification in the rules would be nice!
     
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    "The last two Ts get Last Request (LR) regardless if they completed games or hid and can't be killed after LR for rebelling beforehand"

    just add an "or afterwards" at the end-for me it means they can do whatever they want, when they rebel and then do LR=they are pardoned
     
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    It should be until they reached LR meaning only 2 Ts alive. If they LR and win and then kill a CT again, they are rebelling and should be killed. If they then LR and win they should still be killed unless they are quick enough to LR again. Otherwise its unfair for CTs.

    But that needs to be shorten. @Nomy
     
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    Exactly, that's what I meant.
    Thanks for clarifying it!
    --- Double Post Merged, Aug 11, 2018, Original Post Date: Aug 11, 2018 ---
    19. The last two Ts get Last Request (LR) regardless if they completed games or hid and can't be killed after LR for rebelling beforehand. If a T is rebelling adjacent to the LR or between the LR's, then they should be considered as rebels and can be killed after the LR.

    @Boy What do you think?
     
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    then we were right deva haha
     
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    just heard this in game,, so you have lets say 7 ts alive you call them 1 by 1 to do a game 5 ts die and remaning 2 ts refuse to do the game and do insta lr insted we are not allowed to kill them for not making the game but doing lr insted? if thats true then we are breaking the other rule favortism what about all other ts that did the game and got killd? hope this is not true cuz if it is then this is dumb
     
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