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Jailbreak Guide

Discussion in 'Server Problems & Suggestions' started by WildFire, Jul 28, 2013.

  1. Bennevis
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    That exactly what I thought venge, wait to see what HeLL says also.
     
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    Well said Ben. I discussed this with CT's yesterday and it would be nice to know I was not being over zealous or wrong. I said on VIP that CT's could not camp vents. The question was asked, "even if vent is open.". I take not camping vent as an overall rule. So I said that vents should not be camped ever. So if the vent on VIP is open (cell vent) a CT should not go in to the cell and wait. This is vent camping.

    I was informed that I was possibly wrong as Hell members and Admins have been seen to do this. I will not mention names of who said this. But I have never seen an admin or anyone higher do this since the rules was beginning to be enforced. This is why I enforced it, with warnings. I don't want to punish anyone really, especially regulars who have just missed a rule change/update. But... how long do we wait between a rule changing and a CT giving it "I didn't know this/ when did this rule change?"

    Also I'd love to know if I was right or wrong. I assume @WildFire is the authority but I'm sure any other Member who knows definitively would be able to update.
    --- Double Post Merged, Oct 23, 2020, Original Post Date: Oct 23, 2020 ---
    Best way mate. I know it's difficult to keep up with updates to rules and stuff at times but the reason we are the highest used JB server in Europe is because we are a fair and regulated community. We take advise from members and always discuss these issues without any animosity.

    I also believe we are the best community in the world and are fair with newbies and older members alike in times of rule changes. I've only ever played another server once and it was awful, I was fked about 4 rounds in a row for literally moving half a cell away from my door. That's not fun, what we have is!
     
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    Why though? Make no sense to not be able to guard a certain spot outside a vent/armoury where T's can go to rebel...

    First of all, a CT camping in a cell with a vent mostly leads to him dying a miserable death by rushing T's, because it's an easy target.
    Second, this would be very hard to enforce, especially for vent exits. What does camping mean at an exit? A CT can be watching a vent exit with an AWP from 50M distance, does that mean he's camping? Applying the rule like this would lead to ridiculous discussions.

    I do not agree that what you are saying should be classified as vent camp, plus I do not remember this rule being enforced in this way, ever.
     
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    Because if thats the case then there is literally no point of vents if a CT can camp the other side thats why lol
     
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    If this is not allowed, how come people are allowed to wait at the vent in paper alive? I dont think there is a specific or clear rule about these instances.

    I do know you are not allowed to camp vents and teleports but this is being done a lot in the example I mentioned and then it is accepted by players and admins.
     
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    They aren't allowed to wait at vent in paper alive, they're breaking rules, they can only go to vent if they hear it being knifed or see someone in it
     
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    But if they go there and dont see anyone, because the T is hiding, they are just waiting and camping there untill the T shows himself. Since you are not allowed to camp, as you said, ct's should only take a quick look and then go away again?

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    Also @Brandon his point. You can not camp the vent, but what about scoping an awp at a certain vent. Is this not allowed as well? Since it is actually the same but only with a stronger weapon from a longer distance..
     
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    Ct can only go to ventexit when they can confirm the vent is open from the cell. The only time they can run to exit whilst hearing the knifing/breaking sound is when they cannot confirm via eyes.
     
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    1. Camping in armoury / vents / medic / secret areas is forbidde
    2. CTs cannot exit armoury via vents / teleports at any time
    3. CTs should only enter a vent when they have a valid reason (the vent is open / T is missing)
    These are the rules about vents. Technically only camping in the vent is against rules. We don't mind people who go into a cell to protect the vent whilst the Ts are moved to a different area to prevent rebelling, as seen in Carcerous or Minecraft gun vent. We also don't mind when a CT stands at the exit of a vent for example on MineCraft there's the vent from cells to outside and the CTs often stand outside there to protect the vent. On the Paper map, we don't allow CTs to camp the exit because there is literally no way to rebel. CTs should not also be running to vent exits unless they know or are told it's open.
     
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    Lots of people need to remember that Ts rebelling is literally the point of Jailbreak. The clues in the name of the game.

    CTs think that T's should just follow orders and not rebel at all. Any rules that help T's rebel even slightly get shot down by the vocal majority of CTs on this server.

    Most of the players on JB at any one time are T's. It should be the objective to make the game as fun as possible for as many people as possible.

    CT's camping at the other end of vents completely ruins any possibility of rebelling for that T. It ruins their fun.
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    Minecraft is different because they are camping at the exit of the vent (the other side of the cell).

    How is this different to running around the back of cell area on Minecraft to stop people exiting the vent as CTs do every round?
     
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    The point of JB is to get LR, which includes playing games to get to pick LR +/- partner. So making sure everyone gets to play games for a chance of LR is better than just letting everyone rebel and spraying them down till a couple get LR. It's Jailbreak after all, not death match. On Minecraft, the CTs go to the back of cells to check the Gun vent, coincidentally that covers the one that exit cells, they're not watching it the whole time for someone to leave. Generally people aren't there long enough for it to be considered vent camping.
     
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    Guide updated, added last two points underlined.
     
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    So ive been not playing regularly since 2 years now and there is some confusion in me about the secrets on special days.
    In paper_alive and ml_castle there are secrets that a t can take to get more hp or speed etc so is it allowed for t to take them in like FFD or not since thats not camping a secret or its just unfair to others who dont know how to get them or just are late?
     
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    Secrets in any form are not allowed during special days, neither for CT’s nor for T’s
     
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    Roger That
     
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