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Report of Admin Abuse - Relic

Discussion in 'Report a Player' started by D34RLYD13, Jun 30, 2013.

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  1. D34RLYD13
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    Firstly, hello.

    I'd like to report a Hell-F member known as Relic from which they abused admin in-game on the Jailbreak server at approximately 11:00 AM GMT on the 30/06/2013.

    So, this is how it started.

    McSquirty was the commander during the time. At which, Me, UncleBees and McSquirty were CT's during the time. Squirty commanded and managed to get all the T's to the bottom of cell stairs. He then attempted to lead the T's onwards to the gaming facilities. Squirty then commanded "Stand up to die". Which point, one T in the line stood up and to my initiative i engaged them using a MP5. Now, to my fault, i didn't not realise the rounds fired had actually penetrated another T and hit Relic (Known as moi at the time) alongside another T. Now, Relic claimed i had freeshot them, which i did without knowing during the time. To notify me, she did this by standing up and typing. She then threatened me with a CT ban, instantly jumping to conclusions like a immature teenager.

    The other T i had accidently freeshot at the time, understood and continued crouching and following Squirty, abiding the commands given. Relic, by standing up straight after being freeshot and getting all 'emotional' disregarded commands, therefore was accounted for as a rebel, and therefore killed for standing up as the commands "Stand up to die." were still in effect.

    By doing this, Relic instantly slayed me for "freekilling". After this, both Randyman and Squirty agreed it wasn't a freekill as they purposefully broke the commands. As neither me nor Randy knew it was Relic, we fully confronted Relic, telling her how immature and unjustified her actions were.

    Now, this is the best part. Instead of Relic attempting to communicate and resolving the issue without any conflict. Relic began provoking the conflict by using such undeveloped idioms such as "u kno better" and so forth. Now, i don't know about you, but surely Hell-F (should be) mature, and grown individuals who know how to sensibly and maturely deal with conflicts, and at the time, to me, it seemed that Relic was just acting like a kid with a upset tummy.

    Here's the best part, after Randy found out who "moi" was (Relic 'undercover'), he stated "Shit, well, i'm out" and instantly left the game after siding with me about how Relic was abusing their admin rights. Ask yourself why he would do this, why would he instantly leave the game after finding out? Has it occured he may have felt oppressed and thought that if he was to say something on the forums about this, he too would be suppressed and disrespected by powers above him. I myself feel disgusted with how some Hell-F (not all) suppress those 'lesser' than themselves as they have more rights, or that they genuinly abuse their rights when they can, yet when the need arise they avoid or completely ignore pleads by players to ban, gag or mute players.

    Now, to be honestly. I have felt this way for a very long time, and i'm saddened that this is occuring, because i know the ideology behind the Hell Clan is amazing. A community coming together from all parts of the world. But, the one part i absoloutely despise, is that a select few Hell-F members not only abuse their admin when they themselves are directly affected, but that when other players are being freekilled/freeshot, they completely ignore it, because they themselves are not the one being affected.

    If Relic was such a good admin, she would have read the log where i accidently freeshot Relic and another T and would have seen that another T was also affected. After following commands to the point she was able to talk without being killed, she would have stated "Why was I and another T freeshot?", yet instead, like a mindless and selfish child, she stated "Why was -I- freeshot"?.

    This is the god to honest truth. On all, if not most, of the servers, the regular players who play day to day experience freekilled and freeshooting very regularly. It's something that happens, after all, we are all humans. But just cause Hell-F are granted special rights and permissions, and because they havn't had to deal with that stuff in a long time, as soon as they get a feeling of a freeshot/freekill, they don't like having to be treated 'Normally', like the rest of us do, so they either ban/kick or slay players that piss them off.

    I believe that regular players on Hell servers are being oppressed by many Hell-F members. This is because if you side against a Hell-F member, you're automatically screwed for the reason that you're treated much less equally than them, they have alot more power than them, and anyone else that sides with you is automatically screwed too. Just like when Randy left after siding with me against Relic.

    Where i live, it's a free country, people can express their opinions. However showing disagreement with Hell-F members in-game on servers is more or less a death-wish in this community. The worst part is, i've talked to so many people that play JB on a day-to-day basis. And they ALL agree with me how Hell-F deserve to be stripped of both their rights and reputation, as it seems they want to boost their reputation as much as possible by emphasising their rights.

    I know many people that want to leave Hell as the Hell-F members constantly abuse and are general pains in the rear, me included, but one of the main reasons i don't leave, is because alongside meeting childish and immature admins, some people are kind and good-hearted, most of which i know today have been met on Hell servers, just plain and regular people.

    Now how i'm sure this will turn out is this report will be disregarded and maybe some of my privelages such as DJ will be revoked, however some people will read this, learn and agree with me about the current situation but not bring it up as they too will feel oppressed.

    At one last thing, today i see Payadmins doing better jobs than Hell-F, which i find disgusting, as Hell-F themselves are responsible for looking after the server, however at the moment it seems they care more about looking after their reputation, yet payadmins even PAY to look after the server, in which case they still don't even abuse their powers or rights, but instead be good and justiful admins.

    Below are a few screenshots of the dialogue me and Relic shared. I'll just leave them here as abit of proof.
    Be sure to read the entire log.

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    And yes, i do know i do swear in a few screenshots as i began to lose my cool. But i prefer to show everyone the full side, both me and relic's actions as opposed to evidence pointing directly to Relic and nothing at me. I'm the type that prefers a justified decision for both me and Relic's actions.

    Oh and when Randy left, she did say that "That's one dick gone", not the correct term i'd used to wish farewell to a regualr player who has donated to HeLL many times.

    And brandon did bring to my attention i refer to all Hell members, by declaring "all" i usually mean a select few, some Hell-F such as Brandon/Enow i completely support and agree with any decisions they carry out :)

    I do have a few more issues with the server that i can bring up. However, this is a admin report and will continue to be.
    I'll save the rest of the drama for next time ;) (Although i hate drama myself)

    PS: I hope this gets resolved ASAP, from someone who is actually able to string complete sentences together that actually make sense and do not involve such childish vocabulary.​

    Oh, and i've also made a copy of all this incase worse goes to worse and this is somehow deleted/brought down :)

    Oh and one final thing i didn't add the Steam IP and all that stuff since we already know who they are. But if a admin would prefer, i could add them in.

    I'll state it bluntly as i don't think anyone is getting my jist:

    The issue is NOT Relic.
    The issue is the entire Admin Situation overall. How they are recruited and their rights.
     
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    The only reason i left the game at this point when i found out it was relic is because particularly i don't like relic and she doesn't like me and i try to avoid situations were me and relic are in the same server for a long time from a previous encounter i think i had with relic. Also i heard squirty say stand up to die and i did see dearly kill all the people who stood up and another who was crouched. This sounds like an admin on the server situation but this was just an instant slay situation i thought and was a little bit unfair. Then the both of them started arguing like little toddlers then i said to relic. "you should know better not to argue if you are admin" and i thought dearly was admin before so i was going to say the say to him but wasn't 100% sure so i didn't. This is just my input on the situation.
     
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    I took action against a freekill which was fair. Randyman was not present at the time of freekill he connected after when dearly was been abusive towards me on mic. I did not stand up, dearly die freeshot me to 4 hp for no reason while i was crouched following commands.

    Randyman then started abusing me backing his friend up there for i started abusing back to back myself. Phil D then connected and told them both who I was then thats when randyman said I'm out then they all left and yeh dearly kept on saying cu in forums.

    Randy I asked you to mind your own business but you just cant help yourself. I was playing casually in peace until I got freeshot then I slayed dearly then thats when it all kicked off.

    I am admitting been abusive and I deny any form of admin abuse.
     
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    Actually tbh i was always on the server since 8:15 this morning you just didn't see me in the spectators so i saw the whole thing.
     
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    I dont care what time stop replying here if you got nothing useful to say.
    Wait for super admins to reply.
     
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    [justify][/justify]I'm not interested in the outcome. Like i stated, i believe this entire think will be disregarded and i would probably end up being banned for some ridiculous reason.

    What i am interested however, is addressing this issue that i believe many other regular players, you know the good people that keep HeLL Servers occupied, are also facing. The issue of a few Hell-F members needing to be sorted out regarding their rights and potentially abusive behaviour.

    Oh and if i have the responsibility to find proof in which to use to support my argument against you, what right do you have to not show anything, not even a printscreen or a demo of me being "abusive" towards you? As you so confidently stated above: "I took action against a freekill which was fair.", i don't think posting a couple of words without any screenshots and/or demos is "fair" to me, what, do you expect your words to be taken as the god honest truth without having to supply anything to prove you are right just because you are Hell-F? Or do you feel that "fair" only works when you're the one being treated equally, not when you treat others like crap, like you just did to Randy above instead to politely directing him to leave the thread. Your actions are just further proof of how selfish you really are..

    Even so, my point above still stands, i only wish for this universal issue to be treated with, my consequences and punishment is not worrying to me, but what is, is whether the community can finally be treated with respect and equality.
     
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    The protocol for reporting a Clan Member is to take it up directly with Nomy. I believe you need stronger evidence such as a demo.

    The way you spoke to Relic in this screenshot:
    The maturity that you talk about I can't see in that screenshot, all I see is you provoking Relic with "Rage from Puberty", threatening to report her and calling her a kid.

    It's best not to argue and wait for an admin to reply.

    Randy, although you was/wasn't there, unless you have additional proof, you shouldn't reply.

    Dearly, you're not going to be banned without reason and have your DJ revoked. Don't be a drama queen :p (Joking if you're offended by that.)
     
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    Why would I take a random action for no reason?? It dosnt make sense. Would you have done this if I had my original name on ? I dont think so. You know what you did so enough said. I aint taking non of your abuse keep on crying. I dont regret nothing I said either.

    Oh and you say you got nothing against me why the fuck are you here reporting me for taking a fair action then ?
     
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    Closed until I post.
     
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    I think D34RLYD13 been trigger happy.

    1) free shot.
    2) didnt wanted to let a player explain, A player cant type while couching. You still killed em only because the command was "Stand to die".
    3) When admin talks, game has to stop.
    4) Relic is right, 1st is slay, 2nd is CT ban. Nothing childish, straight forward. Nobody likes trigger happy CTs.

    No admin abuse, if you got more to talk about, add an admin on steam and they will explain.
    The only thing I have to say about relic is, Please use tag next time before slaying someone.
     
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    The way both of them spoke to each other wasn't needed. It was a battle, one person would say something to get back at what the other said.

    Dearly in the first screenshot you show Relic posting abuse but yet you don't show what provoked her to do so in the first place and seeing as your other screenshot shows that you are willing to reply abusively, I believe that what Relic said was justified.

    In regards to the actions I would have to say that things would have been different if the players had known an admin was on the server. I am dealing with this issue internally and will update everyone later.

    For now I think what needed to be said has been said, people have put down their opinions and I am taking into account both sides of the argument.
     
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